[Shock]

From the information we have so far, I'm pretty excited. Looks like a step up from oblivion, but a step down in certain areas as well. For instance, Bethesda has now welded the cuirass and greaves together.

Okay so here are the things that have improved so far (Not including new features, and I may be missing something.) :

1. Animations and graphics. (Graphics not by a WHOLE lot, but animations have been greatly improved.)
2. Dialogue.
3. Combat.
4. Horse riding, fast travel.
5. Wildlife. (Foxes will randomly chase rabbits and other small game, tigers and wolves will randomly chase foxes, rabbits, etc.
6. Non-scripted Dragons. Not all of them are out to destroy the world, apparently. By non-scripted I mean they do whatever they want whenever they want.
7. Quests and AI.
8. Stealth and bows.
9. Daggers. Insta kills on humanoids apparently. "If you have a knife and you're right up close to a guy, you feel like you should be killing him." -Todd Howard.


There is one new thing that I'll post here that I'm not sure how I feel about.. Marriage.

So what do you guys think, if you've even heard about it?

[NiGHTS Noob]

As someone who still prefers Daggerfall to Morrowind and Oblivion by a hare, I think this one has a strong chance to take that crown.

The Dragons being non scripted also means you can bump into them at different times and places within their stomping grounds. The point of this being no two playthroughs or experiences will be identical which is already a strong factor of the open world Bethesda games.

Magic also looks exciting and ramped up in this one, and the ability to use magic in both hands, or magic and a weapon is an awesome feature.

[Shock]

Unfortunately, I never played Daggerfall. I hear it's free, is this true? I played Morrowind and Oblivion, but never Daggerfall. The main reason I never did is due to the fact that the map is apparently a lot bigger and a lot harder to navigate. Also, by stomping grounds, what do you mean? I hear they can literally go wherever, and don't have any set places. Sorry if that's not what you meant.

I prefer playing the stealthy character as opposed to rampaging battlemage, but that's just me. I might use magic for the new traps they have added in, and then lie in wait for my target. Anyway, just saving up for it and I'll be picking it up day 1 more than likely. Considering getting it via Steam due to any cool preorder bonuses, but if it's steamworks I'll get it retail to get the badass map. It's meant to feel like burlap or something I guess. Map

This post has been edited by Shock: 03 August 2011 - 03:17 AM

[NiGHTS Noob]

Yeah, Daggerfall's free, but I'm not sure if you'd like it. It's very, very old school. Ever play Ultima Underworld? 'Cause it's like that.

http://theelderscrol...gerfallSetup_EN

Anyways. I was under the impression that the Dragon's could go wherever, but generally wouldn't venture outside of what's basically designated as their territory. If they could literally go all over the map that would be fucking stupid for a number of reasons. First of all, what's to stop a level one character from venturing outside and getting fireballed in the face instantly? Second, it turns finding any given dragon into a completely luck based scenario. That doesn't mean the areas they'll be in will be small, I figure they'll be semi free roaming. It's just highly unlikely they can go anywhere on the map.

Also, stealth is pathetically piss easy and broken in Oblivion and Fallout 3/NV, so I hope they fix that for Skyrim. I prefer stealth characters as well, but those games make it way too boring. Still, the magic seems awesome enough to make me want to possibly give it a go.

[Shock]

Agreed on all those points. When I tried to DL Daggerfall just recently it said I had the wrong version. (My guess is I downloaded 32 bit by accident.)The stealth in Oblivion was bearable for me because of mods, made it more realistic and rewarding. Better bow if you finish this dungeon without being detected, better dagger, etc. The stealth system will work as follows, if you didn't already know: Detected, Hidden, and then a mode where the guards are suspicious, will remember past events, but haven't found you yet. Not sure what that's called. Anyway, you will have a chance to hide again if a guard finds you, but he will look long and hard before he gives up, which adds to the difficulty, IMO.
Agreed on the magic, I'll probably use it more than I thought at first, because of the badass explosion+slow-time-down shout shown in the gameplay. I'm interested to see how the shouts work. It seems there's a lot of room to mix and match spells and shouts. About the dragons, though, you are really supposed to fear them, and not always engage them, so encountering them at a low level would teach you to stay the hell out of their way until you are powerful enough to engage one. (Not necessarily fighting one. Could be scripted. Bethesda mentioned there will be scripted dive bombings, and even non-scripted ones. Those will be rare though.)

This may seem like a silly thing to be happy about, but the dynamic weather system is pretty cool.

This post has been edited by Shock: 03 August 2011 - 04:31 AM

[NiGHTS Noob]

Well that was an easy setup version, I've never had trouble with it, but I've also never put it on a 64-bit system, so that's entirely possible.

You can go to http://elderscrolls.com/daggerfall/ to get the full game in its raw form, and then configure DosBox yourself to run it. Sorry but it's too old to just straight run.

[Shock]

NiGHTS Noob, on 03 August 2011 - 05:29 AM, said:

Well that was an easy setup version, I've never had trouble with it, but I've also never put it on a 64-bit system, so that's entirely possible.

You can go to http://elderscrolls.com/daggerfall/ to get the full game in its raw form, and then configure DosBox yourself to run it. Sorry but it's too old to just straight run.

Okay, I'll give that a shot, then.

Anyone want to gift me it on steam, by a chance? Nevermind, preordered.

This post has been edited by Shock: 04 August 2011 - 11:29 PM